Fred Miranda wrote: Here is a sample with very complex background which is really a torture test for portraits. Not many lenses would do well with foliage so close to the subject. I think the new Voigtlander 75/1.5 @f/1.5 did a pretty good job here wide. Awesome. Thank you Fred. Aug 11, 2019 at 09:30 AMWhen it comes to planning a cruise, one of the most important decisions you can make is choosing the right cabin. With Fred Olsen’s Bolette, you can find the perfect cabin that mee...Yes, in my mind the D500 + 500 pf will be very viable for many years. I guess the best question right now is if the 400 f4.5 + TC 1.4 is significantly better than the 500pf. Too early to tell so far I think but even if they're close, that would justify the 500pf being viable for many years to come.Jul 27, 2008 ... Fred from YouTube Aka Lucas Cruikshank will be appearing on an upcoming episode of iCarly. He was recently spotted leaving Nickelodeon ...Fred Miranda wrote: Rendering: The Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO seems over-corrected for spherical aberration and therefore some outlining is present in specular highlights. The optical design seems optimized for high resolution and contrast across the field while offering a more structured rendering. Some may see it as a balanced …Mar 23, 2022 · p.7 #15 · p.7 #15 · Nikon Z 24-120mm f/4 S images thread. I too am very much enjoying this lens. Optimised for the edge to edge sharpness at the wide end and central sharpness at all focal lengths. Nice fall-off at longer focal lengths and very well corrected for aberrations. This really is an excellent all-purpose zoom. The site's founder, Fred Miranda, continues to tailor the site to meet the evolving needs of its users. He and his wife, Yvonne, founded the site in California in 2000 and have been married for over 27 years, raising four children together. The site's founder, Fred Miranda, continues to tailor the site to meet the evolving needs of its users. He and his wife, Yvonne, founded the site in California in 2000 and have been married for over 27 years, raising four children together. Changing this to a higher value will let you stay logged in on multiple devices for a longer time, but could be a security risk. I have read and accept the User Agreement & Terms . This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google. Registration Form - FM Forums.Search B&H Photo for gear: Google Search fredmiranda.com: You are not logged in. Login or Registerp.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · 2 new Z lenses tonight ... 180-600 and 70-180. This will be another very competitive lens. I believe it will come in a little lighter in weight than the Sony (which weighs 4.6 lbs). Sony's 4.6 weight is quite an achievement in itself. It will be internal zoom with a short throw.Active topic Active hot topic Inactive or read topic. FM Forums People Photography Join Upload & Sell: 1A forum thread where users compare and contrast the style of photos on fredmiranda.com and dpr.com, two websites that feature photos of nature and wildlife. See examples of the Fred Miranda look, a …Jul 7, 2020 · A photographer shares his story of selling a Mamiya 645 AFD and a Canon EF 135mm f/2L lens on Fred Miranda's buy/sell forum, and how he regretted it later. He explains why he loved these cameras and lenses, and how he ended up buying them back. The web page also features other stories of camera and lens regrets from other photographers. p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Batis 18 2,8 vs Sony 20 1.8G. If you care about colour and deep depth-of-field (3D) rendering, then the Batis is the superior lens. The Sony is about 10% sharper across the board, has better shallow depth-of-field rendering, and less LOCA than the Batis. Aug 18, 2021 at 04:49 AM.This photo was made after sunset near to the summit of Latschenkopf. I took 9 hand held shots with the Makro Planar 2/100 at the Nikon D800E. Post processed in Lightroom, …Moderated by: Fred Miranda: Username : Rules & Guidelines | Uninsured Payment Alert! How to post Feedback | How to Red-Flag a thread: NEVER use Paypal Gift, Venmo, Zelle, Apple Pay, Google Pay or any other uninsured payment! FM Forums Buy & Sell Photo-Gear Join Upload & Sell. 1 . 2Fred Miranda wrote: I'm just surprised how well the CV 50/2 APO did considering it was wide open and it was tested against one of the sharpest 50mm on the market (at center). I will post comparisons at f/2, f/2.8, f/4, f/5.6, f/8, etc..The weather got pretty cloudy here though... Damn mine doesn't ship until January!!! Dec 11, 2019 at …27-01-2024 Energia AIL Final Railway Union vs UL Bohemians. end. petereoin1. 2. 271. cocodrillo. 3 weeks →.Are you looking for an unforgettable vacation experience? Look no further than a stay at a Fred Olsen Borealis cabin. These luxurious cabins offer guests the perfect combination of...Fred Miranda: 132 : 62173 Fred Miranda: 21 hours →: Official 800PF image and discussion thread suteetat: 1529 : 263484 lukemeup: 21 hours →: Nikon z8 + 600 6.3 PF against …p.69 #2 · p.69 #2 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera! So, assuming that the additional dynamic range in the BSI 24 Mpix sensors (Z6, Z6 II, D780, Zf) does allow taking landscapes with better tonal gradations, if you were going on a landscape specific trip, you'd prefer 37% [100x (8256-6048)/6048] more resolution to better tonal ... Add a Comment. NemoEsq. • 8 yr. ago. Well, I'm sure Fred wouldn't like being used...although I suppose some people might like that. Assuming you're referring to the forums on his site (because Fred Miranda is a living photographer still very much active), I've been a member of the site for 11 years.FM Forums is a platform where you can join discussions, share your photos, get critique, and learn from other photographers. You can choose from various topics such as nature, …New macro shooters Post pics here . 2 3 … 19 20 end. Tom Hicks. 550. 249421. Nftypjs. 3 months →.p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Nikon 35mm f1.8S Image & Resource Thread - 35 1.8 Z 1.8Z 1.8S glass len. We already have a FX thread and maybe we can ask Fred to add a filter. This would culminate all the FF images in one area. We started the FX with the same intent as the Sony thread but it was being split a lot at the time.Fred Miranda wrote: For those who don't like the Loxia 21/2.8 hood, the included Voigtlander hood works quite well with it. No vignetting. It also allows us the front cap with it attached. $699 for a lens hood is a bit steep, even for Zeiss : Oct 16, 2018 at 01:21 PM: Fred Miranda Offline Admin Upload & Sell: On: p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Voigtlander …Liked by Fred Miranda For three years, many have participated in our free online courses on Analytics Academy, which aim to help you become an analytics expert and learn…Fred Miranda wrote: This is an ongoing review of the CV 40/1.2 Nokton lens. I received it yesterday and so far, I was able to test it at infinity distance. I also compared it to the Voigtlander 35mm f/1.7 Ultron with a PCX (Plano-convex) front-lens side-by-side. This thread will be updated with many other tests like OOF rendering, CA, Coma and sunstar …A forum thread where users discuss how to log on to Fred Miranda's site, a popular online resource for Fujifilm X System / SLR users. The thread contains various …Fred Miranda wrote: I've tested the Fuji 27/2.8 R WR a while back and thought the corners were not that great wide open. I may get another one and do a proper test in the future. IMO, the Fuji 27/2.8 is …Mar 23, 2022 · p.7 #15 · p.7 #15 · Nikon Z 24-120mm f/4 S images thread. I too am very much enjoying this lens. Optimised for the edge to edge sharpness at the wide end and central sharpness at all focal lengths. Nice fall-off at longer focal lengths and very well corrected for aberrations. This really is an excellent all-purpose zoom. p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Olympus E-M1X hands on tips, techniques, info, and photos. For all those folks who are interested but think price is too high (which probably is) there is an authorized dealer on eBay who is selling the camera for $2500-2600 all you have to do is use “Make Offer” option on eBay. Mar 09, 2019 at 04:51 AM.Jan 18, 2024 · 10: Fred Miranda Forum. The Fred Miranda Forum has a strange name for a photography forum. But it’s a great place for photographers to fill the gaps in their knowledge. The website is easy to navigate, and it won’t take you long to find the discussions you need. On the front page, you’re presented with all kinds of photographic fields. p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread. I got me one last week and the cheap chinese adapter did not give me infinity (as expected...). No problem. I just turned the focus ring to infinity, loosened the three screws on the focus ring and turned the ring slightly. Attached the screws and turned the ring to infinity again.Sold: Zeiss Distagon 21mm f/2.8 ZE for Canon EF mount $295. end. Cinstance. 2. 326. 2 weeks →.Nov 20, 2023 · Upload & Sell: On. p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Nikkor 40mm f2. I used to have a Z6II with 28 2.8, 40 f2 and 35 1.8. The 40 was good, the 28 was OK, but the 35 1.8 was fantastic. If I were in your shoes, I'd save up longer and get the 35 1.8 instead. It's a much better lens and they are close in size. Nov 21, 2023 at 03:10 PM. Offline. • • •. Upload & Sell: Off. p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Nikon Z 50mm f1.2S. This launch sets a benchmark for the Z System. The 58 f0.95 is too esoteric for most serious photographers. More importantly, the excellence of the 50 f1.2S bodes even better for the future lenses. Several are best in their niche across systems.Fred Miranda wrote: Here is a sample with very complex background which is really a torture test for portraits. Not many lenses would do well with foliage so close to the subject. I think the new Voigtlander 75/1.5 @f/1.5 did a pretty good job here wide. Awesome. Thank you Fred. Aug 11, 2019 at 09:30 AMp.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · 300mm f4 PF with the Nikon 1.7X. I frequently use a TC-20 iii on both my 70-200mm f/2.8 VR and on my 300mm f/4 PF. The 70-200 becomes a most useful close-up lens when used in this way; and the 300 PF becomes an incredibly light hand-holdable 600mm.p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Light Lens Lab (LLL) replica lenses discussion & image thread. I posted this to Alt and cross-posted to Sony since many former Alt members reside there now and might have some interest in this. Given this is a replica of the original, it is as originally designed in the 50s - for Leica with all the inherent caveats that ...Fred Miranda wrote: I definitely trust your eyes! Thanks for sharing your work on lens and camera mount alignment. I do these reviews for fun and of course, if I get things wrong I will definitely correct it. This is a rolling review and I'm still learning about the lens. This test was done with my first copy: (which was well-centered on my A7R IV).Fred Miranda Forum is a forum-based platform for photographers to share and learn about photography news, equipment reviews, and fine art presentations. It has 358K members …Active topic Active hot topic Inactive or read topic. FM Forums People Photography Join Upload & Sell: 1Moderated by: Fred Miranda: Username : Rules & Guidelines | Uninsured Payment Alert! How to post Feedback | How to Red-Flag a thread: NEVER use Paypal Gift, Venmo, Zelle, Apple Pay, Google Pay or any other uninsured payment! FM Forums Buy & Sell Photo-Gear Join Upload & Sell. 1 . 2Fred Miranda: 257 : 99507 jigesh: 85 mins → • FM Lens test for Centering (Mount tilt / swing) Fred Miranda: 135 : 62308 Fred Miranda: 2 hours →: April Solar Eclipse Latouf: 9 : 378 Douglas L: 2 hours →: Loxia 35mm F2 on 50 or 60 MP sensor adamfuji: 1 : 69 adamfuji: 3 hours →: Official: Sony FE 70-200mm f/4 G OSS II Lens Fred Miranda ... 27-01-2024 Energia AIL Final Railway Union vs UL Bohemians. end. petereoin1. 2. 271. cocodrillo. 3 weeks →. Fred Miranda is a landscape photographer. Early life . Fred Miranda was raised in Sao Paulo, Brazil, and studied computer science and architecture in college, while pursuing a …FS: Sony G Master FE 600mm f/4 GM OSS Telephoto Lens SEL600F40GM. end. voodoo1694. 1. 125. 86 mins →. FS: Sigma MC11 Canon EF lenses to Sony E mount AF adapter. p.33 #3 · p.33 #3 · Official Nikon 400/2.8S image thread + some discussions. OwlsEyes wrote: Your's is a good question... I think the 400 f2.8 might have been the difference maker with the harrier. Locking on to that bird in a sea of black would have challenged the other lenses. When you handle the 400 f2.8S, the AF seems to be at a …Fred Miranda: 1 : 688 Fred Miranda: 12 days →: Weekly Assignment 1112 winner: ZdevilH1 Fred Miranda: 1 : 487 Fred Miranda: 12 days → #1113 Unexpected- 2024 Danpbphoto: 5 : 295 Artscar2: 13 days → #1113 When the body needs help Tom Harpstead: 1 : 204 Tom Harpstead: 2 weeks → #1113 Fresh kill money138: 1 : 225 money138: 2 weeks → #1113 ... p.69 #2 · p.69 #2 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera! So, assuming that the additional dynamic range in the BSI 24 Mpix sensors (Z6, Z6 II, D780, Zf) does allow taking landscapes with better tonal gradations, if you were going on a landscape specific trip, you'd prefer 37% [100x (8256-6048)/6048] more resolution to better tonal ... Apr 10, 2021 · Fred Miranda wrote: Rendering: The Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO seems over-corrected for spherical aberration and therefore some outlining is present in specular highlights. The optical design seems optimized for high resolution and contrast across the field while offering a more structured rendering. Active topic Active hot topic Inactive or read topic. FM Forums Nature & Wildlife Join Upload & Sell: 1p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · SSD / Nvme - At what point does speed no longer matter? Working on upgrading my setup. Right now I am frustrated with the speed of my machine - but it looks like a lot of this may be due to working from a DAS. I tried out my workflow (photo mechanic) and the difference is night and day working from an Nvme SSD.Join our community of photographers and post unlimited items for sale or trade on the Buy & Sell boards. Pay a low one-time fee instead of high commission fees for each transaction. Buy, sell, and trade gear with freedom. Upload photos from any device and select frame styles to showcase your images. Participate in assignment contests and upload ...Aug 10, 2022 ... PASSAPORTE BRASILEIRO Selma Ferreira conversa com Leo Radar e Fred Miranda sobre Jiu Jitsu. Passaporte Brasileiro | Leo Radar e Fred ...Sold: Zeiss Distagon 21mm f/2.8 ZE for Canon EF mount $295. end. Cinstance. 2. 326. 2 weeks →.The Z8 still lags in AF vs the Canon R5, Sony A1, Sony A7R5, and others. The Z8 looks like a great camera. But for less, one can get the Canon R5 for less that has better AF. But I'm sure Nikon will address this in a firmware update. I was just saying similar on another forum. Still lags the AF, which is important to some, including me.Apr 10, 2021 · Fred Miranda wrote: Rendering: The Voigtlander 35mm f/2 APO seems over-corrected for spherical aberration and therefore some outlining is present in specular highlights. The optical design seems optimized for high resolution and contrast across the field while offering a more structured rendering. p.69 #2 · p.69 #2 · Nikon unveils the highly anticipated Z8 camera! So, assuming that the additional dynamic range in the BSI 24 Mpix sensors (Z6, Z6 II, D780, Zf) does allow taking landscapes with better tonal gradations, if you were going on a landscape specific trip, you'd prefer 37% [100x (8256-6048)/6048] more resolution to better tonal ... Fred Miranda wrote: Another vignetting test: This time with the Leica 28mm f/2 Summicron wide open at 3m and infinity distance. (M11 vs M10-P) Thanks again to @zhangyue@@ for providing the DNG files. The 35/1.4 FLE showed only slight higher vignetting for the M11 compared to the M10-P but I see a more pronounced vignetting …This photo of the Rio Chama in NM has been a favorite of mine for some time, taken with a EOS 40D in raw. It had a couple of "walking sticks" laying across the split logs that, over time, I found distracting, so in trying to learn ON1 I used it to remove them.Fred Miranda wrote: Lloyd told me about it but I could not replicate what he's described. Perhaps what he is calling focus shift is not what I consider to be focus shift which usually happens with lenses under-corrected for spherical aberration. If you look at my infinity resolution test, I've focused at f/2 (center) and stopped down by one stop until f/8. …Miranda is standing in front of the restaurant waiting for her fianc, Mark, to meet her. 20 minutes go by, fol Miranda is standing in front of the restaurant waiting for her fianc,...p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Sony 40mm F2.5G Thread. I've just returned from my first international travel since the pandemic started. The little 40G was one of the three lenses that I took with me and it was excellent as a walk around lens. I'll post up more once I've had time to do a little editing. Shot on an A7R4, this lens has enough sharpness that ...This was recently brought on, as Fred Miranda has cancelled my FM account, completely out of nowhere and not allowing me any say so or will even respond to my emails. His reasoning was simply that he labeled me a ‘commercial dealer’. I was in no way any type of dealer, I was a hobbyist who sourced items for individuals, helped the community with …p.13 #3 · p.13 #3 · Sony FE 40/2.5 G - A little darling. User review, samples and opinions welcome! Really like the 40mm. Just got one recently and used it a lot on my recent trip to France. ILCE-1 FE 40mm F2.5 G lens 40mm f/2.5 1/125s 100 ISO 0.0 EV. ILCE-1 FE 40mm F2.5 G lens 40mm f/2.5 1/200s 100 ISO 0.0 EV.p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Batis 18 2,8 vs Sony 20 1.8G. If you care about colour and deep depth-of-field (3D) rendering, then the Batis is the superior lens. The Sony is about 10% sharper across the board, has better shallow depth-of-field rendering, and less LOCA than the Batis. Aug 18, 2021 at 04:49 AM.p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Sony 40mm F2.5G Thread. I've just returned from my first international travel since the pandemic started. The little 40G was one of the three lenses that I took with me and it was excellent as a walk around lens. I'll post up more once I've had time to do a little editing. Shot on an A7R4, this lens has enough sharpness that ...View Fred Miranda’s profile on LinkedIn, the world’s largest professional community. Fred has 5 jobs listed on their profile.Aug 11, 2019 · Fred Miranda wrote: Here is a sample with very complex background which is really a torture test for portraits. Not many lenses would do well with foliage so close to the subject. I think the new Voigtlander 75/1.5 @f/1.5 did a pretty good job here wide. Awesome. Thank you Fred. Aug 11, 2019 at 09:30 AM Upload & Sell: On. p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Nikkor 40mm f2. I used to have a Z6II with 28 2.8, 40 f2 and 35 1.8. The 40 was good, the 28 was OK, but the 35 1.8 was fantastic. If I were in your shoes, I'd save up longer and get the 35 1.8 instead. It's a much better lens and they are close in size. Nov 21, 2023 at 03:10 PM.Fred Miranda Offline Admin Upload & Sell: On: p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Official: Voigtlander 27mm F/2 Ultron: pete478888 wrote: Looks like a nice lens, with nice sun stars. But Fuji's 27/2.8 is an excellent lens. Mine is tack sharp corner to corner at F5.6. Great for hiking and landscapes. A small excellent 17mm with good sun stars might have attracted …Fred Miranda wrote: Yes, I also tested it on the Voigtlander 50/1.5 Heliar which just like the Triopan is a soft focus low contrast lens wide open. Surprisingly the LM-EA9 worked well with these two lenses. As you know, wide angle lenses are much more sensitive to poorly manufactured adapters especially insofar tilt is concerned. Lenses …Upload & Sell: Off. p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · Soligor 135mm 2.0 m42. I sold my MD mount Soligor last Fall for a measely $130. Maybe it was just bad timing. I really wanted to keep it for use on my manual focus Minolta bodies, but the darn thing was just too heavy and large to comfortably use without a monpod/tripod.The site's founder, Fred Miranda, continues to tailor the site to meet the evolving needs of its users. He and his wife, Yvonne, founded the site in California in 2000 and have been married for over 27 years, raising four children together. Offline. • • •. Upload & Sell: Off. p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Nikon Z 50mm f1.2S. This launch sets a benchmark for the Z System. The 58 f0.95 is too esoteric for most serious photographers. More importantly, the excellence of the 50 f1.2S bodes even better for the future lenses. Several are best in their niche across systems.p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VR S images thread. envirobob wrote: Shot with 100-400 with 1.4 TC. Nikon Z7ii, 1/125s, f/11, ISO 64, 540mm and almost 100% crop. Processed in NX Studio and applied a curse adjustment and sharpened with Topaz Sharpen AI in Photoshop.Upload & Sell: On. p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Nikkor 40mm f2. I used to have a Z6II with 28 2.8, 40 f2 and 35 1.8. The 40 was good, the 28 was OK, but the 35 1.8 was fantastic. If I were in your shoes, I'd save up longer and get the 35 1.8 instead. It's a much better lens and they are close in size. Nov 21, 2023 at 03:10 PM.How are cars becoming more user-friendly? Find out how cars are becoming more user-friendly at HowStuffWorks. Advertisement Fred Flintstone had a car that he had to power with his ...Hamilstans rejoice! On July 3, the landmark Broadway show is hitting the small screen thanks to some Disney magic — and by that we mean the company’s Disney+ streaming service. If ...Fred Miranda: 132 : 62173 Fred Miranda: 21 hours →: Official 800PF image and discussion thread suteetat: 1529 : 263484 lukemeup: 21 hours →: Nikon z8 + 600 6.3 PF against …Fred Miranda wrote: Update: I just received two extra copies today. (Another Type I and one Type II) They seem to perform similarly to my first copy but I will update the resolution/contrast tests with better light once the weather cooperates. From the three copies I've tested, I'm impressed that they were all well centered and calibrated with the …Active topic Active hot topic Inactive or read topic. FM Forums Photo Critique Join Upload & Sell: 1Feb 13, 2021 · p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Sigma 24mm f/3.5 DG DN Contemporary Review. Infinity Performance compared to Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 DG DN @24mm: Although 24mm is the zoom's weakest focal length, to my surprise, it performed slightly better than the Sigma 24mm f/3.5 DG DN prime. They are similar in resolution and contrast across the field from f/4 until f/8 ... p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Issues with Godox AD600 Pro batteries. JBPhotog wrote: You don't say if you charge them while attached to the AD600 Pro. My understanding is one needs to remove them while charging. Yes, i have them removed from strobe when charging. Feb 25, 2019 at 03:02 PM.Fred Miranda is a photography educator, author, and innovator who founded Fredmiranda.com, a website for avant-garde photography enthusiasts. The site offers a …The Z8 still lags in AF vs the Canon R5, Sony A1, Sony A7R5, and others. The Z8 looks like a great camera. But for less, one can get the Canon R5 for less that has better AF. But I'm sure Nikon will address this in a firmware update. I was just saying similar on another forum. Still lags the AF, which is important to some, including me.Active topic Active hot topic Inactive or read topic. FM Forums People Photography Join Upload & Sell: 1Fred Miranda Forum is a forum-based platform for photographers to share and learn about photography news, equipment reviews, and fine art presentations. It has 358K members and offers various features such as chat, assignments, news, and private messages. Mar 26, 2023 · Fred Miranda wrote: I just came across your post showing an image of your recently acquired CV 75/1.9 Ultron, which unfortunately suffered damage from a fall. I'm sorry to hear that! Nevertheless, it's remarkable that the lens is still functioning flawlessly. Thanks! It's crazy that it survived optically with no broken or misalignment elements. p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Sony 24mm f/1.4 GM lens Image Thread. I had a quick shoot this afternoon and used only the 85 GM and this 24 GM. got a couple from the 24, mostly used the 85 as I'm a tele guy. it's really small and light compared with my other stuff, I like the build a lot. the hood is really tight putting back on backwards, like oddly tight.. p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Nikon Z 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 VThe Nikon 200mm f/2 Thread - part 2. 2 3 … 149 150 end. NightOwl The US Supreme Court expanded gun rights as the Senate passed a gun control bill. Good morning, Quartz readers! The US Supreme Court issued two controversial decisions… A 6-3 vote ... Fred Miranda. See Photos. View the profiles of people named Fred Mir Fred Miranda wrote: The CV 28/3.5 is a classic. I wish Voigtlander would bring it back. Yeah, that lens has skyrocketed in value. They could bring it back the way it was as an LTM, and include an M adapter! The one thing about it is the build quality is loose feeling, like all the CV lenses of that generation (21 f4, 25 f4, 35 f2.5, 50 f 2.5). The … Fred Miranda Forum is a forum-based plat...
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